HMIS Website Content proposal - to be reviewed

Hi there,

I have put together a proposal of content for the new OpenHIE website: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pHSFeDrIrStUJrPHswyfJCvrqAyLHE2fC_LsE09oENk/edit?usp=sharing

Can I ask you to review and comment? I would love to deliver a 1st version to Jamie by the Friday morning (Oslo time)

Cheers,

Matthieu

Hi Matthieu,

It looks great to me. It looks like most of the initial stuff is what the community has approved already so I hope we could just go with it for now, and review/revise it later if necessary.

The implementation guide has not had the same level of review, but what is there looks good to me. We could (a) publish the implementation guide as is with any comments received by Friday, with the understanding that we can change it at any time as it is better-reviewed, (b) publish it along with a note saying that it is under review, or © not publish it yet, pending further review and discussion. Any of these options are fine with me. What do others think?

Thanks for pulling this together!

Cheers,

Jim

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On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Matthieu Pinard (UiO) matthieu@pinard.no wrote:

Hi there,

I have put together a proposal of content for the new OpenHIE website: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pHSFeDrIrStUJrPHswyfJCvrqAyLHE2fC_LsE09oENk/edit?usp=sharing

Can I ask you to review and comment? I would love to deliver a 1st version to Jamie by the Friday morning (Oslo time)

Cheers,

Matthieu

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Hi Jim,

thanks for your comments. Yes, besides the commented sections, most of the content is actually initial stuff that has already been approved.

I vote for (a) and keep the discussion opened.

I would love to hear to other point of views, of course. So anyone from the community, if you can spend a few minutes reading through, it is much appreciated.

Talk to you.

Cheers,

Matthieu

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Matthieu Pinard

DHIS 2 Academy & Community Coordinator | University of Oslo

On 25 February 2015 at 17:28, Jim Grace jimgrace@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Matthieu,

It looks great to me. It looks like most of the initial stuff is what the community has approved already so I hope we could just go with it for now, and review/revise it later if necessary.

The implementation guide has not had the same level of review, but what is there looks good to me. We could (a) publish the implementation guide as is with any comments received by Friday, with the understanding that we can change it at any time as it is better-reviewed, (b) publish it along with a note saying that it is under review, or © not publish it yet, pending further review and discussion. Any of these options are fine with me. What do others think?

Thanks for pulling this together!

Cheers,

Jim

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Matthieu Pinard (UiO) matthieu@pinard.no wrote:

Hi there,

I have put together a proposal of content for the new OpenHIE website: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pHSFeDrIrStUJrPHswyfJCvrqAyLHE2fC_LsE09oENk/edit?usp=sharing

Can I ask you to review and comment? I would love to deliver a 1st version to Jamie by the Friday morning (Oslo time)

Cheers,

Matthieu

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Hi Matthieu

Two brief comments:

  1. small gripe on opening sentence which ends with “thus providing better patient care”. Patient care is a very big part of public health but not all beneficiaries are “patients”. I’d rather see that sentence end “in order to promote better health outcomes”.

  2. “Some HMIS implementers will require a standalone system, and others will require a system that interfaces with OpenHIE and other components to provide a variety of services. This can best be served by HMIS software that is flexible and versatile enough for optimal deployment in either scenario”

There seems to be an implication here that there is HMIS and there is OpenHIE and these are somehow separate but might have some interfaces defined. I think we can try and word this better to avoid confusion. Also its not an either/or but rather a spectrum of scenarios. Off top of my bat:

“The openHIE HMIS software component should be flexible enough to be meaningfully deployed in the absence of other components, but should be able to interoperate with other openHIE components as and where they are deployed.”

Hope these two are not me just being pedantic :slight_smile:

Bob

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On 25 February 2015 at 16:39, Matthieu Pinard matthieu@pinard.no wrote:

Hi Jim,

thanks for your comments. Yes, besides the commented sections, most of the content is actually initial stuff that has already been approved.

I vote for (a) and keep the discussion opened.

I would love to hear to other point of views, of course. So anyone from the community, if you can spend a few minutes reading through, it is much appreciated.

Talk to you.

Cheers,

Matthieu

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On 25 February 2015 at 17:28, Jim Grace jimgrace@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Matthieu,

It looks great to me. It looks like most of the initial stuff is what the community has approved already so I hope we could just go with it for now, and review/revise it later if necessary.

The implementation guide has not had the same level of review, but what is there looks good to me. We could (a) publish the implementation guide as is with any comments received by Friday, with the understanding that we can change it at any time as it is better-reviewed, (b) publish it along with a note saying that it is under review, or © not publish it yet, pending further review and discussion. Any of these options are fine with me. What do others think?

Thanks for pulling this together!

Cheers,

Jim

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Matthieu Pinard (UiO) matthieu@pinard.no wrote:

Hi there,

I have put together a proposal of content for the new OpenHIE website: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pHSFeDrIrStUJrPHswyfJCvrqAyLHE2fC_LsE09oENk/edit?usp=sharing

Can I ask you to review and comment? I would love to deliver a 1st version to Jamie by the Friday morning (Oslo time)

Cheers,

Matthieu

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I agree with those points, Bob. Thanks for the careful reading.

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On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolliffe@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Matthieu

Two brief comments:

  1. small gripe on opening sentence which ends with “thus providing better patient care”. Patient care is a very big part of public health but not all beneficiaries are “patients”. I’d rather see that sentence end “in order to promote better health outcomes”.
  1. “Some HMIS implementers will require a standalone system, and others will require a system that interfaces with OpenHIE and other components to provide a variety of services. This can best be served by HMIS software that is flexible and versatile enough for optimal deployment in either scenario”

There seems to be an implication here that there is HMIS and there is OpenHIE and these are somehow separate but might have some interfaces defined. I think we can try and word this better to avoid confusion. Also its not an either/or but rather a spectrum of scenarios. Off top of my bat:

“The openHIE HMIS software component should be flexible enough to be meaningfully deployed in the absence of other components, but should be able to interoperate with other openHIE components as and where they are deployed.”

Hope these two are not me just being pedantic :slight_smile:

Bob

On 25 February 2015 at 16:39, Matthieu Pinard matthieu@pinard.no wrote:

Hi Jim,

thanks for your comments. Yes, besides the commented sections, most of the content is actually initial stuff that has already been approved.

I vote for (a) and keep the discussion opened.

I would love to hear to other point of views, of course. So anyone from the community, if you can spend a few minutes reading through, it is much appreciated.

Talk to you.

Cheers,

Matthieu

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DHIS 2 Academy & Community Coordinator | University of Oslo

On 25 February 2015 at 17:28, Jim Grace jimgrace@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Matthieu,

It looks great to me. It looks like most of the initial stuff is what the community has approved already so I hope we could just go with it for now, and review/revise it later if necessary.

The implementation guide has not had the same level of review, but what is there looks good to me. We could (a) publish the implementation guide as is with any comments received by Friday, with the understanding that we can change it at any time as it is better-reviewed, (b) publish it along with a note saying that it is under review, or © not publish it yet, pending further review and discussion. Any of these options are fine with me. What do others think?

Thanks for pulling this together!

Cheers,

Jim

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Matthieu Pinard (UiO) matthieu@pinard.no wrote:

Hi there,

I have put together a proposal of content for the new OpenHIE website: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pHSFeDrIrStUJrPHswyfJCvrqAyLHE2fC_LsE09oENk/edit?usp=sharing

Can I ask you to review and comment? I would love to deliver a 1st version to Jamie by the Friday morning (Oslo time)

Cheers,

Matthieu

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Hi Bob,

Thanks a lot Bob for reading through the doc carefully and for your suggestions. I have integrated them.

Cheers,

Matthieu

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On 25 February 2015 at 21:02, Jim Grace jimgrace@gmail.com wrote:

I agree with those points, Bob. Thanks for the careful reading.

Matthieu Pinard

DHIS 2 Academy & Community Coordinator | University of Oslo

On Wed, Feb 25, 2015 at 12:15 PM, Bob Jolliffe bobjolliffe@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Matthieu

Two brief comments:

  1. small gripe on opening sentence which ends with “thus providing better patient care”. Patient care is a very big part of public health but not all beneficiaries are “patients”. I’d rather see that sentence end “in order to promote better health outcomes”.
  1. “Some HMIS implementers will require a standalone system, and others will require a system that interfaces with OpenHIE and other components to provide a variety of services. This can best be served by HMIS software that is flexible and versatile enough for optimal deployment in either scenario”

There seems to be an implication here that there is HMIS and there is OpenHIE and these are somehow separate but might have some interfaces defined. I think we can try and word this better to avoid confusion. Also its not an either/or but rather a spectrum of scenarios. Off top of my bat:

“The openHIE HMIS software component should be flexible enough to be meaningfully deployed in the absence of other components, but should be able to interoperate with other openHIE components as and where they are deployed.”

Hope these two are not me just being pedantic :slight_smile:

Bob

On 25 February 2015 at 16:39, Matthieu Pinard matthieu@pinard.no wrote:

Hi Jim,

thanks for your comments. Yes, besides the commented sections, most of the content is actually initial stuff that has already been approved.

I vote for (a) and keep the discussion opened.

I would love to hear to other point of views, of course. So anyone from the community, if you can spend a few minutes reading through, it is much appreciated.

Talk to you.

Cheers,

Matthieu

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On 25 February 2015 at 17:28, Jim Grace jimgrace@gmail.com wrote:

Hi Matthieu,

It looks great to me. It looks like most of the initial stuff is what the community has approved already so I hope we could just go with it for now, and review/revise it later if necessary.

The implementation guide has not had the same level of review, but what is there looks good to me. We could (a) publish the implementation guide as is with any comments received by Friday, with the understanding that we can change it at any time as it is better-reviewed, (b) publish it along with a note saying that it is under review, or © not publish it yet, pending further review and discussion. Any of these options are fine with me. What do others think?

Thanks for pulling this together!

Cheers,

Jim

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 11:49 AM, Matthieu Pinard (UiO) matthieu@pinard.no wrote:

Hi there,

I have put together a proposal of content for the new OpenHIE website: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pHSFeDrIrStUJrPHswyfJCvrqAyLHE2fC_LsE09oENk/edit?usp=sharing

Can I ask you to review and comment? I would love to deliver a 1st version to Jamie by the Friday morning (Oslo time)

Cheers,

Matthieu

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Hi all,

Jamie has started to add our content - https://beta.ohie.org/hmis-aggregate-indicator-system/

Feel free to comment our proposal here - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pHSFeDrIrStUJrPHswyfJCvrqAyLHE2fC_LsE09oENk/edit?usp=sharing

Thanks in advance,

Matthieu

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On Tuesday, 24 February 2015 17:49:46 UTC+1, Matthieu Pinard (UiO) wrote:

Hi there,

I have put together a proposal of content for the new OpenHIE website: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1pHSFeDrIrStUJrPHswyfJCvrqAyLHE2fC_LsE09oENk/edit?usp=sharing

Can I ask you to review and comment? I would love to deliver a 1st version to Jamie by the Friday morning (Oslo time)

Cheers,

Matthieu