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On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 4:35 PM, Alvin Marcelo admarcelo@up.edu.ph wrote:
Got this Carl – we’ll handle this side of the world – and will ask the MOH focal points to do the updates themselves –
alvin
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On Thu, Nov 24, 2016 at 8:29 PM, Carl Fourie carl@jembi.org wrote:
Hi All
I want to bring this thread back up to life a bit, I fear that we may have steered it towards a CMM and away from the original ask of Implementation countries. While a CMM is valuable and I think we can add value with it I think we should honor the original ask of building out the implementations lists made by teh OHIE community on the call lets break CMM into another thread? (or am I missing how this is tying into implementation lists?).
So reading the history of this thread we have the following:
- mHero (Liberia, Guinnea, Sierra Leone, Mali) - Carl L (has been volunteered to build these out or pass onto someone who can on the implementaiton page)
- Tanzania - Dykki can you please build out or have someone build our what you know of that is running in Tanzania?
- Alvin / Derek could you help us around SE Asia?
- Pierre/Annie - Could you get MomConnect built out please
- Wayne - Could you get Rwanda reviewed
https://wiki.ohie.org/display/projects/Implementation+Projects
If we could have contact persons for various projects / initiatives that would be very helpful.
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On Fri, Oct 21, 2016 at 5:19 AM, Alvin Marcelo admarcelo@up.edu.ph wrote:
+1 on the CMM. If you come up with the framework, we (AeHIN) can run a quick baseline among our membership. A ‘present’ or ‘absent’ (is there a policy creating a national health facility registry?) should be easy. A deeper measure of maturity (‘is there API access to the facility registry?’) will be harder and can follow later.
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On Oct 20, 2016 21:05, “Carl Leitner” litlfred@gmail.com wrote:
Certainly mHero countries should be included. In various stages of implementation we have the following countries: Liberia, Mali, Guinea and Sierra Leone. There are a couple of others that are in the planning stages as well.
Cheers,
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On Thursday, October 20, 2016 at 8:08:18 AM UTC-4, Dykki wrote:
Reinforcing your thoughts, Carl F, I think this should be opt-in for the DHIS 2 community. If this is meant to capture OpenHIE implementations, which DHIS 2 implementations also consider
themselves OpenHIE implementations?
Following that line of reasoning though – all
mHero implementations would also be OpenHIE (at least OpenHIE lite) implementations – Carl L – do you concur? Some overlap with the list below, some new.
Thanks all, I am enjoying this good effort and conversation,
Dykki
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Thanks all for inputs. I think listing all DHIS 2 implementations will be a bit much. Can I say for the first part that we can include DHIS 2 implementations that have planned/active Interoperability aspects. Let’s see what this gives us before we duplicate
the dhis2 implementation map.
Steven I agree that this may be a fair indicator toward HIE plans and I think we may want to see what has been done with DHIS and OpenHIE Interoperability first and then go back round and revisit other DHIS 2 Implementations and point them to examples of
what could be done.
Also anyone from DHIS2 community want to weigh in around this and ensure that we don’t duplicate existing work and or respect the community goals if each group?
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On 20 Oct 2016 1:47 a.m., “Steven Wanyee” swa...@gmail.com wrote:
One benefit I see in determination of country’s implementation (and extent/maturity) of DHIS2 is it will provide us valuable information as a reasonable surrogate indicator of a country’s pathway towards potentially implementing OpenHIE,
or at least creating that opportunity - and for process efficiency, this is part of Carl’s initial call to provide info on this page https://wiki.ohie.org/display/projects/Implementation+Projects.
From that knowledge, we can then dig deeper and more specifically with regards to the important points that Derek raises.
For example, while in Kenya DHIS2 had been successfully implemented and well used, there’s been a lot of effort and investment (and actual products line a Data Services Layer) in developing a NHIS informed by an EA.
Thanks.
On Thursday, October 20, 2016, Derek Ritz (ecGroup) derek...@ecgroupinc.com wrote:
Hmmm… Steven makes an interesting point. I wonder, though, if we can make the assumption that implementing
DHIS2 as “the national HIS” is consistent with the concept of an interoperable HIE. If we all were required to use the exact same mobile phone… its true that we could call each other. But isn’t it the point of a standards-based network architecture to support
connectivity between disparate models and brands of phone?
How well does this analogy fit? What do folks think?
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My thoughts are any DHIS2 used (or clearly intended to be scaled for use) at a national (as the official national HMIS) level even without any active interoperability
should be included. For most countries, DHIS2 implementation is (and has been) usually the first step towards building up a more comprehensive HIS eco-system that nurtures interoperability.
Thanks.
On Thursday, October 20, 2016, Pierre Dane pie...@jembi.org wrote:
Hi Derek,
I think the DHIS2 instances that have some component of interoperability should be included, even if they do not adhere to openHIE workflows. So stand-alone DHIS2
servers used for routine reporting are not of interest, but those that are part of an HIS with an IL are. Especially if they play the role of other components of the HIS such as a clinical repository (I won’t say SHR here!), demographic registry or master
facility list.
Any thoughts on this from the group?
Thanks
Pierre
On Thu, Oct 20, 2016 at 5:18 AM Derek Ritz (ecGroup) derek...@ecgroupinc.com wrote:
Hi Carl.
For purposes of this list, should we consider DHIS2 implementations as implementations of a component
of OpenHIE? DHIS2 is the HMIS for OpenHIE. I’m asking, however, because there are many DHIS2 implementations that not at all adherent to OpenHIE’s architecture… and a few that are.
Thanks for the clarification,
Derek.
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Hi All
On the leads call yersterday the link to the current page of OpenHIE Implementaiton projects was shared:
https://wiki.ohie.org/display/projects/Implementation+Projects
For those who don’t click through these are the list of the current countries where there may/are OpenHIE implementations
.
For the sake of this thread
- lets consider an implementation defined as: any project (planned, active or past) that leverages any of the following of OpenHIE:
architecure and or workflows and or reference components. What we’d like to know is where is OpenHIE being looked*
- at, the architecture influencing design, workflows being implemented (even in part or using slightly altered standards sets) and
or if one of the reference tools is being used to support a project (CR, FacilityRegistry, OpenHIM, SHR etc)*
So the ask is (and thanks to the team for sending out the original ask about implementation):
Do you have a project that ticks any of those boxes? or know of a project that may?
If so please respond to this thread. We would also like those who are running or are aware of projects to please complete the very small
amount of project detail (or at least claim that they are the go to person) on the project page. Jamie has done a great job in creating a project page template in the wiki and feel free to use that. If you are battling with the wiki please just send the details
to me in a word doc and we’ll get it up there.
I’m also going to call out to some persons that may know more about some countries should they not volunteer themselves you know
who you are.
Thanks all!
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